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Jamie's ghost

  • Something I have been wondering. How did the author go through with explaining how Jamie can see Claire outside of her window in 1945 and the purpose of Frank seeing Jamie's ghost? I just finished reading written in my Own Heart's Blood and I am still a little confused

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    • Diana has not explained this in the books, but has stated it will be explained in the final book, whichever that might end up being. She has given spoiler-y details about the "ghost" in interviews, though.

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    • Loved that moment in the pilot for the show...Frank & Claire are in Inverness and as they check-into their hotel, the inn-keeper (Mrs. Baird) tells them that they have arrived in time for the "Samhain festival" (their Halloween). She warns them of ghosts wandering about town that night...

      But I haven't read Own Heart's Blood yet so I hope that there is more to why it's Frank that sees Jamie.

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    • It's not in the existing books about how Frank is able to see Jamie. But Jamie frequently has dreams about his family that are more like visions - and he does tell her about seeing her in the window in one such dream so that's how he can see Claire.

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    • If Jamie sees Claire in the window in 1945, this is prior to Claire traveling through the stones for the first time. Does Jamie travel forward in time to a point before Claire travels back in time? He must then travel back in time to point after the war, where he eventually meets up with Claire again. Seems like he would wait her to return to 1948 and start up their lives again. Instead, he goes back in time, marries someone else has 2 kids, then has the marriage annulled when Claire does eventually return.

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    • @70.121.2.178 – Jamie does NOT time travel. It's his "ghost" that sees her in 1945. Also, it sounds like you need to read Voyager again to understand what actually happens...

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    • It could have been Jamie astral-travelling in his dreams at some point soon after Culloden. Doesn't Jamie tell Claire that he dreamed of her once when she was in the future, and that she was sitting at a table and holding something in her hand?      

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    • I believe in a podcast, it was stated that the ghost was a 25 year old Jamie. Did anyone else read or hear that? Its on another topic thread. Any thoughts on why that age? Please share any spoiler-y info in the interviews as well. I am so happy I came across this site.

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    • Yeah, that's why I thought that the 'ghost' of Jamie could've been Jamie astral-travelling into the future in his dreams not long after Culloden. It would make sense, I think, since he would've been lonely and longing for Claire, and we've already seen in Voyager that he dreamed of her while in the cave, in prison and also in Helwater. It would also explain why he looked so upset and frustrated when Frank saw him in Outlander. In his own time he would have just lost Claire so of course he would be deep in despair and frustrated.  

      We already know that he's psychically connected to Bree, Jem and Mandy and can see them through his dreams. It could be that being separated from Claire (and longing for her) is what 'turned on' his psychic ability, so to speak, since there doesn't seem to be any evidence that he had this ability before he was separated from Claire.

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    • For him it would be kind of like 'astral-travelling' as to him he's seeing these things that are happening in the future. But for someone in the future that sees him, ie Frank seeing him staring up in the window at Claire brushing her hand he is considered a ghost because well he's dead by that time. And that's the only time he seems to physically appear. The times he'd seen like Jem and Mandy at Lallybroch no one else saw him there.

      In regards to that exact age of 25, the signifigance is that is means it was after Culloden which took place on April 16,1746. On May 1,1746 Jamie turned 25. Which secondarly signfigance is that in the books it is Beltane (May 1st) that Claire goes through the stones for the first time.

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    • Frank did tell Rev Wakefield that he strongly sensed Jamie's presence a lot during the 18 years he was married to Claire.

      And what a birthday for Jamie! :D He got to meet and fall in love with Claire.  

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    • Helped that Claire never stopped loving Jamie. Jamie and Clarie both kind of have a thing in regards to appearing as 'ghosts'. Jenny saw her 'fetch' during Jamie's wedding to Laogahire.

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    • so, is it confirmed that there will be a 9th book to explain the "ghost" fully?

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    • I don't know that Book Nine will cover anything about the 'ghost'. Diana has said the final book would, but who knows what will be the final book.

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    • I just love the complexity of this series, yet the simplicity that time can not stop true love.

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    • DG has said that the last book will be book 10.

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    • I can't wait to see how Diana explains this in the final book!

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    • I heard that Diana told Ron Moore and Sam Hueghan the secret behind Jamie's ghost. 

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    • How about that scene with Frank in the car returning to the stones and is passed by a man on a motorcycle--foreshadowing? Was it Jamie?

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    • I doubt the motorcyclist in the show was foreshadowing of anything let alone was it Jamie. After all in the books we don't see what's happening in 1946 while Claire is gone.

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    • I always though that Jamie's "ghost" or his dreams would end up being very significant because he sees things that weren't invented and can explain them in detail (like a telephone); like when he has a dream about Bree, Roger, and Jem at Fionas house in Breathe in Snow and Ashes. It has been shown that he can't travel because he touched the stones in Outlander but nothing happened BUT he travels in his dreams??? That has to mean something I am anxious to know how Diana answers that.

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    • From what I saw only one of his hands touch the stone.  And he heard no ringing/buzzing.  I haven't read any of the books yet,but I'm obsessed with this show.

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    • I love the shows as well. I've have a clanking to read the Series. True love story.

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    • I theorize that it's something on the Fraser side. Jamie is able to see into the future in his dreams. Jenny saw Claire at Jamie's wedding to Laoghaire, Jem and mostly Mandy have some extra gift of perception connecting them beyond just being travelers. Even William Ransom has something like when he was little and he remembers hearing his dead mother and trying to follow the voice and hearing stones, he's not a traveler but I think there's just something on the Fraser's line that allows things like that. But again that's just my thought on it. Maybe that's why in the novels there is that prophecy about the Fraser line ruling Scotland, there's just something unique about them.

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    • In the first book Frank tells Claire about a workman who was killed and buried in the cellar of a big house called Mountgerald. Hisghost haunted the cellar except on the anniversary of his death and the ancient feast of New Year's Eve, Midsummer Day, Beltane and All Hallow's.

      In one of the deleted scenes from the first series of Outlander the B&B owner recounts this story to Claire and Frank.

      I wonder if Jamie is the workman and this is one of the days when his ghost can wander.

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    • @92.22.50.23: In a later book it's revealed who the workman was, and it wasn't Jamie.

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